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In article <2sd3q0$[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]> writes:

> In article <2s99i6$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (RykerX) says:
> >
> >Please leave your opinion here.
> >
>
> Phttttttt on all of them... Delphi especially. AOL too. Better to
> find a local friendly that'll offer you your own domain for
> free or a few bucks a month if you know anything about computers.
>
> If you are not a net.hack, then they are fine. Personally, I'd
> prefer a local Freenet. They're popping up all over the place.
>
> Anyone else wanna counter what I say?
>
>

Think long and hard about Freenets.  Most practice censorship.  Certain topics
are forbidden.  Language is carefully monitored.  Writer's SIGs, for example,
have to censor the writings online -- writings you will find in any supermarket
novel.

Freenets also have limited access to the Internet.  You are accessing the
Internet through a shell.  You have only as much access as they are willing to
grant.  You cannot, for example, use Mosaic to access WWW from most Freenets.
Nor can you use IRC from most of them.  You want an account that gives PPP or
SLIP access, preferably PPP.  Then you can use your own TCP/IP client software
to access the Internet.

Avoid Netcom, too.  They have even begun to revoke network access for users who
stimulate heated discussions in Usenet groups.  They have, for example, pulled
the account of someone recently for submitting dead cat postings to
rec.pets.cats.  A handful of readers complained to the Netcom sysadmin and
Netcom reacted.  Badly.

I cannot speak to PSI or Delphi.  I have no experience.  However, AOL practices
censorship with a vengeance.

Look for an Internet access provider that believes in the right to free
expression.


Mitch
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From: [e-mail] (sholomg)
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Subject: New WinVN

I am presently using WinVN.  The only problem that I have with it is that
it sometimes locks when I am trying to reply to an article.  I tried the
latest version of WinVN from the ftp site.  However, it will not even
let me conect with my server.  I keep getting error messages.
Note that I am using chameleon sampler's winsock, running under windows
ona PC.  Any ideas?

Sholom Gliksman       [e-mail]
Coming to you live from the heart of Chicago's 48th Ward!
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From: [e-mail] (Brian Bowers x4822)
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Subject: Using WSAASyncSelect() or select() to notify Client of succesful asynch connect()?

I am developing a service type application under Windows NT with Visual C++ for NT.  The PC is on a ethernet LAN and using TCP/IP protocol.  I am required to establish multiple Server and Client role sockets in a thread environment. (i.e preferably not a Windows application).  My problem is asynchronous notification of socket connections when establishing the multiple Client role sockets.  The following requirements must apply:
1. The Server process is not established (i.e. not executing yet)
2. The Client sockets are non-blocking
3. The notification is asynchronous for multiple socket connections

Question: After performing the connect() call and receiving the WSAEWOULDBLOCK error message back, how do you get asynchronous notification of successful connection on a socket when the Server process is finally powered on?

Statements:
1) Having the SOCKET handle included into a write FD_SET and calling select() with no timeout does not seem to work. (e.g.Windows Sockets Specification version 1.1 pg 25,26).(Microsoft indicated this didn't seem to work right)
2) As a Windows application using WSAAsynchSelect with FD_CONNECT, after a short period of time (15 sec) a successful notification is posted indicating WSAECONNREFUSED using WSAGETSELECTERROR macro.
3) If the Server process is already executing (i.e. listen()ing) the connection can be established with the observation of the following anomoly:
3.a) When the socket is set to non-blocking the connect() call returns WSAEWOULDBLOCK even when the Sever process is already listen()ing.  ...A following select() call returns and the communication over the socket is available. ...Or A followig WSAAsynchSelect with FD_CONNECT successfully notifies the Window Application.

If any one has had success in a similar application or I am just interpreting the spec wrong please let me know.  Thanks, BLB.
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From: [e-mail] (Laurence Chiu)
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Subject: Re: Win32s on networked Windows

In article <[e-mail]>, Fred Sorensson wrote:
: We recently got a Nowell NetWare network, and I am now running Windows from
: the server, which works fine. The server Windows, however, does not have
: win32s installed, and when I tried to install it from my machine, tie
: installation program just died with a flash, and left me with Windows still
: without the 32 bits. I found nothing in the Win32s files that said anything
: about networked environments. If there is someone who has any knowledge of how
: to solve this, I would be very grateful, since I would really prefer to run
: the networked Windows version.
:

In all likelihood you've struck the same problem that I have when
trying to install software that needs to put files (usaully DLL's)
into the windows\system directory. SInce it's on the LAN, unless you
are the LAN administrator, you will not be able to write to that
directory. This has crossed me several times. I can't even install a
Windows fax package since it wants to copy the fax driver to the
system directory.

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Subject: Internet in a box


Spry can be contacted at [e-mail].  I don't believe their Mosaic
implementation is out yet, but their other internet programs are very good, with
the exception of the News Reader, which is inferior to Trumpet